WILL Hillary Clinton be the 46th president?

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  • Hillary Clinton will be the 46th president of the USA, and will be the last president of the USA. She will be appointed into the office of president by the 25th Amendment, NOT by election. 
    (Originally posted on the daily newsletter on Feb. 6, 2012. http://www.isawthelightministries.com/blog/index.blog/2253970/prophecy-fulfilled-giants-win-superbowl-46/ This link is no longer active. But I repeated the prophecy again on the newsletter on Jan. 28, 2015 and this link is still active.
    Repeated again on Sept. 22, 2016.
    Repeated again on Nov. 7, 2016.
    Quote: “At the Super Bowl 46 American Football game half time show on February 5, 2012, Madonna dressed as Cleopatra who was the last queen of Egypt. Years before, Jesus had already given me the gift of prophecy. Jesus used this gift of His and His Spirit to help me to understand this symbolism in connection with other things HE had already showed me and confirmed. Since then, many other confirmations have also come. I have written repeatedly over the years of how that Hillary represents Cleopatra in many different ways including her Jezebel control over men and the division of the Roman Republic as well as her practice of witchcraft. America’s biblical ancestor was Manasseh whose parents were the Hebrew/Syrian Joseph and an Egyptian woman. America continues to this day to exhibit many of her ancient grandmother’s Egyptian characteristics, with the Egyptian pyramid on the back of the Dollar Bill and with the pagan Washington Monument and others. Even as Cleopatra was the last Queen of Egypt, so will her spiritual daughter Hillary Clinton be the last queen of America. Even as the Empires in Daniel 2 changed from the Greek/Egyptian Empire to the Roman Empire in Cleopatra’s time, now in Hillary’s time there will now be a major change from the Roman Empire to the Assyrian Empire with a mixture of Rome. You will see Assad and the Roman Catholic Popes stand side by side. But the Islamic characteristics will in time over dominate and destroy the Roman parts. But Thank Jesus that Jesus will return with His Army of Saints on the Day of the Battle of Armageddon to destroy the Assyrian Assad and his empire. There will never be an end to Jesus and His Kingdom. Fiesta Forever!!!!!”

Many people have falsely accused me of saying that Jesus told me that Clinton would win the 2016 election. I never said that! But I did think that she would win. And I did say that Trump didn’t have a chance. But that was just my human nature talking. Every time that I shared what JESUS showed me, I always said that Hillary Clinton would be the 46th president by the 25th Amendment AND that it would NOT be by election. That is what I said repeatedly as shown above. Trump is only the 45th president, NOT the 46th. So the prophecy was always about who would be president AFTER Trump.
After 2 years of prayer and soul searching, I have now added this prophecy back onto the prophecy list as of Nov.4, 2018 because I believe what Jesus showed me and it WILL happen!)

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  1. A very interesting prophecy found ON line Bob Wizenhut Nelson Banuchi pls give us the prophetic insight you are grasping

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    1. I don’t have an opinion on prophecies that aren’t found in Scripture. So let’s look at what we actually see in Revelation.

      Revelation 17 tells us about the harlot that rides the scarlet beast with seven heads and ten horns. Conventional wisdom has it that this harlot is Secretary Clinton.

      Revelation 11 talks about God appointing two witnesses. Are they President Trump and VP Pence? If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. The beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. For 3 and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

      Some of this all seems to fit perfectly but other aspects, not so much. Are President Trump and VP Pence clothed in sackcloth?

      If the above is correct then we should expect the beast to figure out a way to take President Trump down. So the prophecy above could be one possibility for the beast to rise from the pit and take down the two witnesses. But the only thing we can say with certainty is that the hand of God is on our current President protecting him.

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    6. I’m sure both platforms will be updated before the 2020 Primaries are decided. Be careful what you ASK for, Israel asked for a king and a judge, and that wasn’t God’s design.

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    7. Trump is NOT GOP – I hope we are clear on this If he was running Reagan GOP policies like
      open markets
      open borders
      we wouldnt even be having this conversation because how pointless to find difference between the GOP elect candidate and the the GOP itself – simply pointless Let us all remember that Trump only made it because GOP had no winning choice in 2016

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    8. NO ONE has ran Reagan GOP!
      ALL the candidates use his name (in vain) while they are running for the nomination…but NO GOP POTUS (Bush) nor GOP Congress(wo)man has done it. Can you find one?

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    11. hahah short guy was killing me here 🙂 waving BUZZ tie way too short – did he leave the rest on the moon?

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  8. I don’t see how H. Clinton could legally becomre VP now unless she replaced Pence and served under Trump.

    I have heard ‘words’ about preidents down the line.

    But I am believing God to answer my long-standing prayer that she never become president iof the United States of America.

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    3. Legally, the scenario could happen if Clinton replaced Pence as VP or if she were VP on the next Democratic ticket (unlikely) and the nominee died before taking office.

      But other prophecies about presidents later on in history couldn’t be true if she were the last one. One prophecy in the prophetic movement isn’t necessarily consistent with another.

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  21. Nelson Banuchi just a note to your verse here

    “for where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing” (James 3:16),

    where it says evil thing the word thing is not in the Greek
    it is the English rendering of the def. article
    and it could be translated
    as every evil or all evils
    and YES it may refer to demons controlling kings http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/is-trump-really-saved/

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  22. I read part of the prophecy. I think you. Red to read the Bible. It true for sure. It certainly won’t be Trump and Pence , if I understood you correctly. They will not be the two prophets that will Prophecy. And be killed and lay in the streets three days , and then come back alive. The Bible plainly tells you one is Elijah , I believe the other to be Enoch, because they both was translated to Heaven without ever dying. And the Bible says it is appointed for man once to die. And they will be killed during the Tribulations. Some thinks one will be Moses , because He will Work the same things that he did while in Egypt. Like turning water to blood. But Moses died. Already. But Enoch ever died. That’s the reason I think it will be Enouch and Elijah. Because they never died. I don’t mean it disrespectful, I think you have your thoughts, and left out Gods Word.

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  25. I corrected my words in what I thought about the Prophecy. I didn’t mean for it to sound like it was meaning the wrong person. I put the word you in there to many times when I wasn’t referring to any you. I was referring to the one who wrote the prophecy. I guess it just comes easy to put say. When you could give a complete misunderstanding. I glad I read over what I wrote. I’m pretty sure it was a woman wrote it. If not and it was a Him. Then I still have it wrong. I meant it going to the one who thought Trump and Pence. Was going to be Enoch and Elijah.

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  27. One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”

    Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery:

    babylon the great

    the mother of prostitutes

    and of the abominations of the earth.

    I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God’s holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

    When I saw her, I was greatly astonished. Then the angel said to me: “Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

    “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

    “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

    Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled. The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

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  29. #9 we voted Trump in office and still waiting for the reversal
    and the wall
    and his taxes
    and Prosecute Hillary Clinton
    and Muslim ban
    and Tax cuts for all
    and Minimize government waste
    and take no vacation days – took more in 1 year that Obama ever did
    and and and…

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  30. It amazes me how some, who tack on titles to their supposed theological prowess, are yet unlearned in the workings of our government. Our nation’s leader is not a dictator. When campaigning for office, they present a platform made up of opinions, beliefs, and legislation he hopes to enact. He/she isn’t a dictator. Much of this must be approved by the powers of Congress. When the opposing party, in this case Democrats, vow to disrupt, plot & vote against and even empeach the sitting President, it’s all but I’m possible to get legislation passed. In spite of this demonic opposition, President Trump has against all odds, under Divine Providence, done wonders for our nation. I certainly do not claiming to be exceptionally intelligent, but some things are evident unless one chooses not to see.

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  31. I can say that the Bible says You will know them be the fruits they bear. But to say he saved or not. I would say only God knows. I know as far as I’m concerned. I would say his language should change. Some of his words. But to say if he is saved. I would say , Lord you know. But I know I would love to see the fruit. But for me, I wouldn’t try to judge.

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  42. If the US would had an election system where the President is elect by the voters and not by an electoral college, she would be now the US President. She got more votes than Trump, but the “electoral college” gave the Presidency to Trump because that’s the way the electoral system works in the USA.

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  43. This is true but for this very reason we have an election system and not a popularity pageant

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    3. Troy Day you know Jezebel was worse than Ahah. But he isn’t Ahab. At least he’s trying to keep Christianity , in America. Ahab didn’t. The first President, we have had , that tried to keep Christian values in America, in years. I pray for God to help get ready for the Rapture. Well I would like them all be ready. But since President Trump has tried to hold it in there. I would hate for him to miss the Rapture. Ihave a lot of confidence in his wife. When I saw her keep rubbing tears away from her eyes, when some Lady sang , How Great Thou Art. “. She won my heart right then. I don’t know how close to God he is. But he wants prayer back in school. Merry Christmas can be on Christmas cards. I think he wants God in America. People has comprised the gospel for God so long ,They don’t even recognize Him when He there. Many has come to the place anything goes. And then we have some who wants a move of God. When God is there and people Worship God. They are ready to com back. Because they love Worship. And God Loves Worshiping.

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  46. Hillary represents Cleopatra in many different ways including her Jezebel control over men and the division of the Roman Republic as well as her practice of witchcraft. America’s biblical ancestor was Manasseh whose parents were the Hebrew/Syrian Joseph and an Egyptian woman. America continues to this day to exhibit many of her ancient grandmother’s Egyptian characteristics, with the Egyptian pyramid on the back of the Dollar Bill and with the pagan Washington Monument and others. Even as Cleopatra was the last Queen of Egypt, so will her spiritual daughter Hillary Clinton be the last queen of America. Link Hudson Do we suppose that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about demons? No. But it does tell us all we NEED to know (namely, that they have to go in the Name of Jesus, etc.). For instance, wouldn’t you like to know more about why the demons wanted to go into the swine? What we have is mainly conjecture.

    Wouldn’t you like to know where demons come from? Some say they are fallen angels, etc. But to the best of my knowledge, that it nothing but conjecture, too.

    However, when someone speaks of a “Jezebel spirit,” I do not take this to be a particular DEMON, but rather a set of behaviors that can enable us to be more watchful with people exhibiting those behaviors. Just as the FBI has profilers that can tell us the traits of certain serial killers (believe it or not, cruelty to animals, bed-wetting, and fire starting are three things that show up in many or most serial killer profiles!), we would be foolish to ignore behaviors that often reveal darker things.

    The same with the “Jezebel spirit.” Like I said, I have never considered that a particular demon, but rather someone who is acting in a way that we believe Jezebel acted. Just as we can see people that are controlling, or insecure, or narcissistic–and can divine from that certain elements that we would be wise to regard in the future with other people/situations–so, too, can we see both negative and positive traits in Biblical characters and draw some conclusions.

    For instance, do you recall how Jesus told the disciples (who wanted to call down fire from heaven) that they didn’t know what spirit they were of? He is letting them know that they were acting in a manner that was contrary to the pattern/spirit they should have been following.

    Now, sometimes, it does indeed get weird. And perhaps this is something that can only be detected by discernment, but, yeah, sometimes people go to some wild places in their teaching, and in such cases, we must take care. I tend to take many things with a grain of salt, not giving exceptional weight to it until I can better study it or confirm it, etc.

    Most of us preach sermons that are based on these principles. For instance, we may not call it “the spirit of Esau,” we might very well preach a sermon about people who trade their birthright for some bauble, relatively speaking.

    Demas? I think we could EASILY come up with a “spirit of Demas.” But I think the use of the word “spirit” can get problematic, making people think it is a specific spirit with a specific name, rather than a “profile” that often accompanies people who turn back to the world.

    In our mid-week Bible Study, going through the “stories” of the Bible, we spoke of Jezebel. And I simply pointed out some key things that Jezebel exhibited and warned against such things. I might have used the term “Jezebel spirit,” but I think it was clear that I meant “actions associated very strongly with Jezebel.”

    It doesn’t have to be in the Bible to be valid (although it helps). Also, the Bible gives us all we NEED to know (even if not all we WANT to know). It can be very beneficial, I think, to dig deeper. God can provide additional insight that might warn us of impending problems. The Bible tells us how to defeat this spirit (and any other), but it may not make it clear just what sort of things show up with these “profiles.”

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    2. Cleopatra served foreign overlords.

      There are many things we coukd accuse Hilary Clinton of based on policies she has supported. Is there evidence to support accusing her of witchcraft? Is it based on someone claiming revelation of it?

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    6. I do not like her politics or even her voice or personality. U have prayed that she never be president. But is there any evidence that she has done witchcraft. Slander is a sin after all. Should we accuse her based on second hand revelation? It reminds me of spectral evidence.

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    10. Paul L. King yet still quoted from in Jude and referenced by Jesus.
      The Bible, as we know it, doesn’t go into the details of demons because Enoch covered it already.

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    11. Casius Leonidas SO? Paul quoted from a drunk Crete poet – does this make his poem true BIBLE?

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  49. I wouldn’t talking about Hillary Clinton. If the devil had a wife , she would probably be her. She is the Jezebel. And probably worse. I was talking about Trumps wife. Setting the good example. And Trump trying to bring to bring God in America. I didn’t know how to spell Malta. Trumps wife , seeing the tears.

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    1. I ended before I was finished. No I don’t put anything past Hillary Clinton. I think she is worse than Jezebel. I don’t know if I could ever vote a democrat ticket again or not. I would have to know then and they have got God in their life. At least their fruit represents Christian. I don’t go along wit Trump in everything. Especially his language. But I think he is trying.

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    2. Guess what? Hillary Clinton, for all her faults and precisely because of her sins (real or those imagined by you) is why Jesus (a) dies on the Cross, and (b) commands his people to prayer for (in the same way many pro-Trump Christians say Christian “Trump-haters” should pray for Trump) her salvation.

      Btw, Trump’s “fruit” – if it is true as as Jesus claims that you shall know them by their fruits – betrays that he is not a Christian (1 John 3:7-8).

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    3. Louise Cummings Btw, it seems obvious to me that Trump is not “trying to bring to bring God in America”; and, if he is, it is only to promote his own self for, ultimately it seems, monetary purposes. He’s using the Christian faith, not promoting it (which is not the first time a delusional man with despotic tendencies used religion, for our discussion, Christianity for their own self-interest. KKK is an example.

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    4. Nelson Banuchi you will see Trumps real fruits over next 2 years.?

      And as children of God we are expose wickidness and abhor from evil

      Also have you ever read Ecclesiastes 3:7-8 ????

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    5. Nelson Banuchi don’t tell me you are one of them. All those that came by yesterday saying , he’s not doing it for them , he’s doing it for him. If I could haven my word for him. I would well you all have the same message. It seems to me that they were jealous , because they didn’t think of loving their country. , because all of you must have been behind closed doors. And didn’t think of doing something good for your country. Because they didn’t have time to think of something good , because they were to busy trying to think, what can we do that’s cricked that will put a million dollars in my pocket. Now let’s all think. We can share a little money with all of you , but I get the biggest cut. They were the ones doing it for then and letting out men and ladies that paid the full price for our freedom. You see they had the message turned backwards. They were the ones thinking of themselves , and not our precious men and women that it cost their life. So they got jealous because Trump loved his Country and payed respect to the ones who lost their lives. So they all had to come up with something. So they started the message they were doing , because they didn’t think of something good. Just how they could get another dollar. So they come up with the same message. He’s not doing it for then. He’s doing it for him. And a lot of copycats come in behind , saying the same thing. I not trying to offend you.I guess a lot of people felt that way. But it seems to me. They weee all mind readers or copying what others were saying.

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    6. Aaron Griffiths no doubt I will see Trump’s fruit in the next year-and-a-half. The question is what kind of fruit it will be, good or rotten? If it’s past Route is any indication, it’s most likely going to be the latter unless, of course, he has a change of heart and repents, seeking the forgiveness he disdains now to ask for and receive.

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    8. We just need to be watching Praying and be ready. But when the antichrist comes. The Christians will be gone in the Rapture anyway. And the antichrist will want ever one to take a number. If you don’t take the mark that will be a number 666. Don’t take it. Let them kill you first. But if you take it. You will be lost forever. But if you let them kill you. Just in a few months you will rise and live for the Lord forever.

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  50. oh boy oh boy oh boy Nelson Banuchi are they BOTH promoting NAR theology of the Catholic church? Angel Ruiz Philip Williams

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  53. I said at the beginning. I wanted the all to be saved. That includes Hillary. I don’t want to see them all saved. I have prayed for Hillary. Said I prayed for Trump , that he wouldn’t miss the Rapture,
    because he has tried to bring Gods values or God back into America. But go back and see if I didn’t say I wanted them all to go. Or be saved , something to that nature. But I was talking about Trumps wife , when I said she won my heart. It was on Onigaratyon night. That some lady sang “ How Great Thou Art”. She kept putting her fingers to her eyes , catching her tears. That when I said she won my heart , that night. You could tell she was feeling something from God. That’s the reason I said she won my heart. I have not seen her do anything out of order. Since Trump has been President. Yes I lift him up in prayer , because how long has it been since we have anyone say anything for God , except the Governor ,didn’t want the Ten Commandments took out of court House , or the government house. Somewhere down there.And lost his Job because of it. You don’t see anyone in public , or higher office that will mention God. My son will. But he is in a small office. He is in his third term to be on the City Council. But he mentions God to people. But Trump has put Merry Christmas back on Christmas cards. Where we did have to buy cards that said Happy Holidays. And prayer and Bible reading back in school. And can pray before a football game. He’s trying. I don’t know his heart , or his wife. But someone that is trying to put God back in America. And have our Christians values. I said I pray he won’t miss the Rapture. Trying to do that much good. And miss the Rapture. It would be sad. I pray God save him and all his family. I pray for the others to. I don’t want a single one to be lost. But on one side. Most of their fruit , doesn’t show any love or fear of God.

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    2. Aaron Griffiths I know about those Scriptures. This part will be during the Tribulations. The time of the antichrist. The church will be Raptured during this time. But there will still be signs and wonders.before the Rapture. But greater things will happen after the Lord Raptures the Church.

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  54. Sure Trump would like the support of evangelicals just as did Reagan who they have both helped much. It doesn’t seem to bother evangelicals that these that neither of these Presidents are willing to mention the name of Jesus. God’s judgment is coming!

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    1. Philip Williams Amen to that. I will agree that in the next two or three years. There will be som terrible things happen. But I believe we are going to see the wind of the Spirit blow. It’s going to be a Revival to cause most people see , we are living in the last days. We are already beginning to see the stir. When have you ever heard of five foot of hail fall in Mexico. So many things already. And this is getting or already are here.

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    5. Ray E Horton remember the words of Jesus. Private confessions aren’t so important. At his Coming, he will be ashamed before the Father of all who are ashamed of him.

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    8. Philip Williams How about Trump’s Christmas greeting from the White House. He said:

      “For Christians all across our nation, around the world, this is a sacred season that begins 2,000 years ago when Jesus Christ was born. An angel declared to the shepherds tending their flocks, ‘Behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is a born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.’

      “There in Bethlehem, Mary and Joseph held in their hands the son of God; the light of the world; and, through Him, the promise of eternal salvation.”

      Google the Christmas message, and hear for yourself.

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    1. yeah what happened there – wasnt Trump supposed to put her in or something? Nelson Banuchi

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    3. Troy Day yes, Trump said something to the effect that once he’s president he’s going to press charges on her and send her to jail.

      The word numbskull comes to mind.

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  59. She comes as a couple with her husband. I had an extensive encounter with him in the mid-nineties where their Deep State corruption began with the invasion of Haiti. My guess is that both of them are destined for prison.

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    5. Nelson Banuchi no conspiracy, just how our government works. I had a big confrontation with the American Ambassador who together with his staff was shouting at me and my staff about how I was messing up their plans for Haiti. I got a concerned call from the White House. They actually invaded that country for gain, giving to Aristide personally what rightfully belonged to the telephone company owned by the government and people.

      Most interesting, my letters to government officials and letters written on my behalf from members of Congress ended up in the briefcase of Johnnie Chung who was supposedly working on their behalf for selling secrets to China and pled the Fifth. They had, I surmised, been given to him by the Commerce Secretary, the late Ron Brown.

      These letters, then with FBI serial numbers were obtained through FIFA by Joe Kovac, Editor of the World Net Daily who called me asking why I thought my letters should be in Chung’s briefcase.

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    8. Philip Williams Looked into it a bit. Not sure exactly what went one but, apparently, the DailyMail.Co.UK, is your only evidence for a conspiracy? Are you talking about Chinagate?

      Washington Post reported a Republican attorney’s conclusion on the matter: Yet, Jan Baran, a Republican attorney specializing in election law, said if no one at the White House requested the contribution and if Williams promptly turned it over to the DNC, the White House “may have an argument that those circumstances do not constitute a violation.”

      However, if Chinagate, is true, probably, perhaps, it is essentially not much different, at least for the goal, from what Trump (whom I believe is an illegitimate President) is doing with Russia in a somewhat different way, if not as “high crimes and misdemeaners.”

      And if you’re not disturbed by what Trump has done and is doing, I’m not gonna be disturbed with what Clinton did.

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    9. Nelson Banuchi

      Indeed I did. It concerned an infrastructure project I had hoped to implement in Haiti.

      I could write a book. I simply provided a link with an indication of the seriousness. Had I not experienced what I did, I would dismiss this as right-wing conspiracy, to quote Hillary. Do a bit of research on Ron Brown, his role in this, and his death.

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    10. Nelson Banuchi I am apolitical, only mentioning my personal experience with two corrupt politicians and a corrupt government. Maybe it doesn’t bother you that Haiti was embargoed, then invaded for private gain. And that hundreds of millions donated for Haiti’s earthquake relief went instead to the Clinton foundation.

      I wasn’t discussing Trump. Why did you bring him up? What’s your point? And what has he to do with this?

      Did you watch the clip on Johnny Chung who I formerly believed was responsible? I formerly supposed that he had pled the Fifth to avoid prosecution. Now I understand that he is a pawn who knows too much. He has very good reason to fear for his life from a very corrupt American CIA who also opposed my project for Haiti.

      It seems that he was given my letters in order to obtain inroads to the government of China. A long story behind that which begins in Arkansas in 1989 that I don’t wish to discuss here.

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    11. To quote the sad words that American Ambassador Leslie Swing, a veteran of the State Department, shouted to me:”Haiti exists to serve American interest!”

      Corruption obviously preceded the Clinton’s, but these two knew how to use it, likely going back to her father, the late Senator.

      In the Ambassador’s words, “America” refers to big corporations like AT&T (in this case), Banks, and powerful politicians, not the American people however corrupt we may be.

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    2. is this true …. As traced by Indiana free-lancer Craig Fehrman. Pence’s religious trajectory began with an Irish Catholic boyhood and proceeded to an evangelical religious experience in college that led him to call himself “an evangelical Catholic.” By the mid-1990s, the Catholic side had receded and he joined Grace Evangelical Church in Indianapolis, a mega-church affiliated with the Evangelical Free Church of America (a small Baptist denomination with roots in the Scandinavian free church movement).

      Serving six terms in Congress beginning in 2001, Pence was the compleat evangelical warrior. He kept his Bible handy to consult on matters of public policy and became a paladin of the pro-life cause. Nothing, he claimed, was more important than his faith.

      But after being elected governor of Indiana in 2012, he suddenly became reticent. He told Fehrman his family was “looking for a church.” It’s not known whether they ever found one.

      Fehrman attributes the reticence to political calculation: “as his political ambitions grew his public religiosity needed to shrink.” But that’s not a problem in contemporary evangelicalism. It’s enough to call yourself, as Pence did when accepting Donald Trump’s offer to be his running mate, “a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican — in that order.”

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    3. Pence became friends with several evangelical Christian students, whose Protestant faith he came to admire. “I began to meet young men and women who talked about having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and while I cherish my Catholic upbringing and the foundation that it poured in my faith, that had not been a part of my experience,” Pence said in a 2010 interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network.

      A short time later, in 1978, Pence took his first major step away from Catholicism by engaging in a classic evangelical rite — he was “saved.”

      “Standing at a Christian music festival in Asbury, Kentucky…I gave my life to Jesus Christ and that’s changed everything,” he said.

      As powerful as the moment was, the departure from the faith that raised him wasn’t immediate. Pence continued to align himself with Catholicism even after graduation, when he worked as a Catholic youth minister, and even applied to Catholic University in Washington, D.C. for graduate school. As late as 1994, he still used the unusual religious identity — “evangelical Catholic” — to help make sense of the tension between his old faith and his new spiritual experiences.

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    2. Philip Williams ppl may discard this as a vain warning but believe you me – coming sooner than 2020

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  66. WHAT? Nelson Banuchi Trump said something to the effect that once he’s president he’s going to press charges on her and send her to jail.

    WHAT ARE YOU Talking about my friend? Are you all there? Have you forgotten? NOT ONLY he said that – he made it his campaign flag ship How many tweets about that? How many interviews? Statements and so on – only to forget it ALL like most of his other promises to evangelicals NOW watch for the FLIP in 2020

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